Warship design

[Kenneth Young]

This was strongly influenced by the various naval treaties which imposed
qualitative and quantitative limits on shipbuilding. There were other
constraints such as docking facilities, the RN at least expected to have
to dock ships at regular intervals to clean hulls.

When Japan withdrew from the treaty regime they built the Yamoto class
in the expectation that any US counter would breach Panamax.

The only ships that could be built in unlimited numbers were limited to
2000 tons displacement,maximum speed of 24 knots, and a maximum off 4
guns of six inches or less. The RN built sloops and the USN the Eerie
class gunboats.

Every navy underestimated the rate off aircraft development especially
dive and torpedo bombers hence the lousy light AA fitment they started
the war with. The USN, the RN and the KM increased numbers and introduced
new weapons the Japanese just increased numbers. New methods of fire
control were also introduced including radar.

However what people should be considering in any discussion on ship
design are staff requirements and treaty limits. Nobody could work from a
clean sheet of paper

[Don Phillipson]

Post by Kenneth Young
This was strongly influenced by the various naval treaties which imposed
qualitative and quantitative limits on shipbuilding.

This seems to demand confirmation, e.g. by comparing the number of
warships built with and without treaty limitations since the date of the
first such treaty (1922? This one cannot have lasted more than 12 or
15 years.)

[John Dallman]

Post by Don Phillipson
This seems to demand confirmation, e.g. by comparing the number of
warships built with and without treaty limitations since the date
of the first such treaty (1922? This one cannot have lasted more
than 12 or 15 years.)

Since the treaty placed significant limits on the number and size of
ships that could be built, and those were respected, simple comparisons
aren't very useful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Naval_Treaty

John

[Don Phillipson]

Post by John Dallman

Post by Don Phillipson
This seems to demand confirmation, e.g. by comparing the number of
warships built with and without treaty limitations since the date
of the first such treaty (1922? This one cannot have lasted more
than 12 or 15 years.)

Since the treaty placed significant limits on the number and size of
ships that could be built, and those were respected, simple comparisons
aren't very useful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Naval_Treaty

This comment omitted the main proposition that warship
design "was strongly influenced by the various naval treaties."
This suggests:
(1) More treaties should be reckoned than Washington
1922 alone.
(2) We need to consider warship designs over a reasonable
period of time, both with and without naval treaties.

[Kenneth Young]

Post by Don Phillipson
This seems to demand confirmation, e.g. by comparing the number of
warships built with and without treaty limitations

The treaty regime was started with the Washington and extended by the
first and second London Treaties. Germany was limited by first Versailles
and then the Anglo-German naval treaty. The only nation who withdrew from
the treaty regime pre-war was Japan. France and Italy were included in
the treaty regime. The nearest I can come to answering your point is
planned construction between 1918 and 1922, there were a large number of
capital ships cancelled due to the Washington Treaty.